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Post by Rychu on Nov 2, 2013 3:51:36 GMT
Despite not owning the game yet I've already got some ideas on teams I'd like to try including Gen VI Pokémon.
Just wondering if you guys have teams or thoughts on specific new Pokémon for competitive? I'd love to her thoughts on builds related to Gen VI etc!
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Post by Leader on Nov 2, 2013 12:25:09 GMT
It's still pretty early, though I can easily see certain Pokémon like Aegislash going straight to Ubers, while Gengar is definitely going to be OU. Right now, I'm experimenting with different combinations to make a successful team. I still have many Pokémon to EV train, so it will take a while before I have a solid team.
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Post by bookoostrikes on Nov 2, 2013 13:04:59 GMT
Normally I don't like to get super competitive, but X and Y brought out my inner epic, so here goes!
Klefki, my favourite fairy type most likely will hold a spot in OU or UU. With the ability prankster, it can easily cripple opponents with thunder wave, set up calm mind easily and it can either use spikes to quickly set up hazards, or start sweeping with draining kiss for steady recovery, or flash cannon for coverage and to win fairy wars. It's stats are mediocre, but it defends does reach 300 when invested fully, so it's covered I'm that aspect.
Greninja has protean to deceively trick it's opponents. On simulators, I run toxic spikes, spikes, hydro pump and ice beam. Spikes and toxic spikes are not only there for hazards, but they can slowly stall you're opponent and allows minimal damage to Greninja providing it can outsped. Hydro pump is the obvious stab move and with life orb attached, it comes close to 1HKO scizor, leaving it with 15% of its HP. For ice beam, since it changes its type to match the move, it's granted STAB from ice beam, which adds up the extra power.
Despite what everyone says about Aegislash, I personally think it will be in UU or OU if its lucky. Reason being, it's much too slow to do reliable damage. In most scenarios, it has to sword dance to make use of shadow sneak, but even then the move sits at a pitiful 60 damage and its expected to do good damage. Plus, the minute it uses shadow sneak, it is vulnerable to all attacks and it has to king shield to patch up those holes, leaving it with only two attacking moves. That's very limited coverage as it is locked to sacred sword, iron head or shadow sneak. On one hand though, it is very good at stopping outraging dragon types, but thays why we have fairy types. It's still suspect able to moves like flamethrower, earthquake and shadow ball. Aegislash is good and all, but I find Aegislash very easy to defeat otherwise. Those are my two cents, do you guys think Aegislash is really as good as it sounds?
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Post by Rychu on Nov 2, 2013 13:18:29 GMT
I'm currently breeding for a perfect Klefki, I want to try and run a Prankster set with thunder wave, swagger, substitute and either play rough or foul play, undecided on that. But it's prankster will make it so annoying, it can single handedly kill something someone could rely on later in battle and give you the advantage, or just ruin almost any team with it's prankster and high defense/special defense! As for Aegislash, I agree, it's effectiveness will be very skill based, and although it looks like fun, I may avoid it due to it's frailties in blade forme.
Any thoughts on some of the mega? I'm personally excited for mega alakazam just because of it's stats and rather wide move set giving it a few options to sweep ^.^
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Post by Jirachi on Nov 2, 2013 16:24:03 GMT
My plans as of now are as follows: Protean Modest Greninja, 252 in spatk and speed 4HP Bulletproof adamant Chesnaught, 252 in atk and speed 4HP Awesome Adamant Mega Banette, Prankster of course, 252 atk and probably 252 HP cause all his moves are priority with Shadow Sneak on his set. Also Destiny Bond, probably Twave and encore. Gale Wings Talonflame, 252 attack and speed, 4 HP Possibly Aegislash, 252 in both defenses (It's like a super stall) 4 HP I'm not sure for this last one, perhaps a nonmega Gardevoir or another fairy type. Mawile would be nice but it's weak.
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Post by icar on Nov 2, 2013 16:29:20 GMT
I don't know loads about evs/ivs but I know that a malamar with superpower and its ability contrary is AMAZING ^o^
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Post by Rychu on Nov 2, 2013 18:40:46 GMT
I like the sounds of your team Jirachi, I've already bred a perfect Greninja with Protean along with my little brother, looking to use him. Currently working on a prankster Klefki! Despite not having a 3DS yet, my brother is letting me use his and we're helping each other out with teams and breeding, i can't wait to get my team made and give people battles and have some post game fun!
I will challenge you to a battle when we're both ready, Jirachi, should you choose to accept! I am pretty new to competitive so don't have a massive understanding of tiers such as OU etc. but i really want to get involved! ^.^
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Post by ShinyMegaGengar on Nov 2, 2013 18:55:55 GMT
I like the sounds of your team Jirachi, I've already bred a perfect Greninja with Protean along with my little brother, looking to use him. Currently working on a prankster Klefki! Despite not having a 3DS yet, my brother is letting me use his and we're helping each other out with teams and breeding, i can't wait to get my team made and give people battles and have some post game fun! I will challenge you to a battle when we're both ready, Jirachi, should you choose to accept! I am pretty new to competitive so don't have a massive understanding of tiers such as OU etc. but i really want to get involved! ^.^ We need to re-breed that Greninja for the correct nature haha!
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Post by Rychu on Nov 2, 2013 19:05:00 GMT
I like the sounds of your team Jirachi, I've already bred a perfect Greninja with Protean along with my little brother, looking to use him. Currently working on a prankster Klefki! Despite not having a 3DS yet, my brother is letting me use his and we're helping each other out with teams and breeding, i can't wait to get my team made and give people battles and have some post game fun! I will challenge you to a battle when we're both ready, Jirachi, should you choose to accept! I am pretty new to competitive so don't have a massive understanding of tiers such as OU etc. but i really want to get involved! ^.^ We need to re-breed that Greninja for the correct nature haha! very true, can't believe we did that wrong haha, atleast we have him to cut down the process, just need the correct ability from somewhere or just not give either an everstone.
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Post by Jirachi on Nov 3, 2013 15:35:14 GMT
Get a modest ditto if you're breeding a spatkr. Dittos from Friend Safaris always have two perfect IVs to help pick up the pace. And yeah we can battle when I get my team going!
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